One of the major drawbacks about Nintendo not releasing information about NX until later on this year and skipping E3 is that rumors have the perfect environment to flourish from now until then. It is not very often that anyone states a rumor that actually has a tangible source that can be verified. Most of the time the person making the rumor is some obscure person you never heard of from a website you never heard about before naming an “anonymous source” that can’t be revealed. Sometimes it does come from a source you have heard of before, but yet never any actual links to any websites, never any statements from people involved, no pictures, no video, nothing. Every once in awhile they hit on a rumor and from that point on people that are too lazy to do research of their own forget everything they have said that was proven WRONG and take everything they say as gospel truth. Such is the case with Emily Rogers and a recent rumor regarding the Nintendo NX.
According to Emily Rogers her “sources” tell her that the Nintendo NX is NOT using x86 architecture and is “closer to XBOX One” in power. Here are her direct quotes.
“After speaking to seven different people this week, I can say with confidence that this is false,” Rogers writes in her blog post. “NX is not using x86 architecture like PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. The NX has special, custom-made chips and the overall design of the hardware is very modern.
The chips are industry leading because they are very modern chips, but having modern chips doesn’t necessarily mean Nintendo is aiming to create the most powerful hardware on the market. Furthermore, any rumors on ‘Polaris chips’ and ‘Polaris architecture’ regarding NX is wacky. There’s a good reason why those rumors are wacky.
There will be plenty of debates over the NX’s specs because it’s not simple to directly compare two apples (with x86 architecture) to an orange (that doesn’t use x86 architecture), but everything that I’ve heard (so far) indicates that NX isn’t the PS4K competitor that some Nintendo fans are hoping for.”
I don’t even know where to start with this because it is so preposterous. Let me be a gentleman and start by giving her the benefit of the doubt. Let’s just say for the sake of argument she is correct. That the Nintendo NX will not use x86 architecture and is somewhere close to the XB1(whatever that means.) If that is the case, Nintendo is done. Not as a company in general, but as a console manufacturer. They would not get a drop of 3rd party support, no one in the industry would ever take them seriously again as a console manufacturer, and they would be forced to become a 3rd-party themselves again for the first time in almost 40 years. I don’t want to hear that balderdash about how it would be affordable, that it has a stellar line-up of launch titles, that it has a revolutionary gimmick, blah-blah-blah, yakkity-smackity. We’ve already done that with the Wii U and to a lesser extent the Wii. It didn’t work. Somehow I don’t think the third time will be the charm. That’s just me.
Now that we are done blowing the proverbial smoke up one’s arse, lets get serious. I’m about to get knee-deep up in here.
Rogers in regards to Polaris technology being used in NX GPU: “After speaking to seven different people this week, I can say with confidence that this is false.”
WHAT people? 3rd party developers? Representatives from Nintendo? Representatives from AMD? Who is telling you this? What company do they work for? When did they receive their NX dev-kits? What games do they have in development? How much money did you pay them to risk legal action from Nintendo to break NDAs to tell you information they have legally agreed to not divulge until the NDAs expire? I mean, you’re sitting here making absolute statements about what the NX can and cannot do so that means you have absolute knowledge about it meaning your “sources” broke their NDAs.
Rogers: “NX is not using x86 architecture like PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. The NX has special, custom-made chips and the overall design of the hardware is very modern.”
What does that even mean? “The overall design is very modern? ” That’s ridiculous. AMD designed BRAND NEW CHIPS for the NX. Of course it’s modern. It’s not going to be antiquated. There are only two possible options for architecture for the NX. x86 and ARM. While ARM is not the headache that PPc was in terms of game development and is easi-ER to have x86 code converted over, it still is not optimal for 3rd party multiplats. Square-Enix has already stated that Dragon Quest X and X1 which are MULTIPLATS are coming to the NX (prematurely of course.) Now if DQXI is coming to the PS4, I seriously doubt that Square-Enix is going to be making a separate version of the game just for NX, nor making plans to port it over and have to convert x86 code over to ARM. Obviously the 3DS version (which has ARM architecture) could be ported over to NX and upgraded in theory, but do you honestly think Square-Enix is going to waste time doing that? C’mon.
Rogers: The chips are industry leading because they are very modern chips, but having modern chips doesn’t necessarily mean Nintendo is aiming to create the most powerful hardware on the market.
If a chip is powerful, it is going to be leading. If it is not powerful then it is going to follow. How can the NX APU be a “industry-leading chip” yet only at best be as powerful than a chip that was designed THREE YEARS AGO? To add to that, obviously the PS4 APU was more powerful than that of the XB1 (which is what you are comparing the NX APU to,) yet the NX APU is “industry-leading?”
Then you say, “That doesn’t mean Nintendo is necessarily aiming to create the most powerful hardware on the market.” So again, you are either guessing, or you are outright making things up on the fly. Either it is, or it isn’t. Either you know, or don’t know. PERIOD.
Rogers: “Furthermore, any rumors on ‘Polaris chips’ and ‘Polaris architecture’ regarding NX is wacky. There’s a good reason why those rumors are wacky.”
and that reason is?………….
WHY are those rumors wacky? WHY is it so unbelievable that a company that has more money allocated to spend in game development than both Microsoft and Sony cannot have bleeding-edge hardware? WHY is it so unconscionable to suggest that a company which out of seven generations of home consoles in five of them Nintendo has had either the second most-powerful console in that gen or THE most-powerful console in that gen?
Color TV Game = Most Powerful – 1st gen
NES = 2nd Most Powerful – 3rd gen
SNES = 2nd Most Powerful – 4th gen
N64 = Most Powerful – 5th gen
GameCube 2nd Most Powerful – 6th gen
Wii = Least powerful – 7th gen
Wii U = Least Powerful – 8th gen
So Nintendo has the pedigree to make powerful-hardware. By the way, here is an ‘informed’ opinion as to why Polaris could be in the NX.
Now this doesn’t confirm or deny anything, but if you are going to make an opinion about something that has not been revealed, this is how you do it. You find statements that were made by people you can actually verify what company they work for, what their position is, the date the statements were made, and with the evidence you can see with your own eyes actually fire a synapse or two in your brain to make an informed opinion. Again, this is NOT proof of anything, but it makes sense and I know how much people hate to do that nowadays.
AMD in December 2014 already confirmed that they were making the APU for a console to be “revealed” in 2016.
Article from Dean Takahashi July 16, 2015 4:30 P.M.
“Back in December, AMD chief financial officer Devinder Kumar spurred speculation when he said at an analyst conference that AMD had two semi-custom chip designs in the works. “I will say that one is x86 and the other is ARM, and at least one will be beyond gaming, right. … They [the customers] are going to announce it and then … you will find out that it is AMD’s APU that is being used in those products.”
So there you have it right there. The CFO is telling you that at least some portion of the console for this “customer” will have x86 architecture (and we don’t need to play semantics here. We know it is Nintendo.) So since we like to debunk things around here, consider Emily Rogers’ rumor “debunked.” Sad part is this information is readily available for anybody. A few clicks and a few minutes of your time. Not even that hard ya’ll. Anyone reading this could have done the exact same thing.
Later on in this same article AMD CEO Lisa Su confirmed “three” design wins for console hardware APUs. Being that the NX was announced first, the APU announced in 2014 is the one for the NX. The other two obviously are going to be for PS Neo and whatever Microsoft is working on. We know all three are working on new hardware, and AMD is the supplier.
Now. This notion that NX is close to the XB1 in power. Look at the specs of the XB1 GPU and compare that to the lowest-end Polaris GPU in the video above. They don’t compare.
It is NOT POSSIBLE for AMD to make a brand-new APU for the NX that would make the console on-par with the XB1. However, it is possible that the handheld COULD be on par with the XB1. There are already smartphones and tablets that have caught up in power to the XB1 and PS4. If there is any truth to what Emily Rogers is saying at all, it makes sense to suggest that her “sources” are telling her the specs of the handheld which obviously would run on ARM architecture like pretty much all mobile devices and dedicated gaming portables use, and NOT the home console which is what she is trying to infer.
Remember, the CFO stated that the second APU would be ARM and go “beyond gaming.” With Nintendo going into mobile full force now, it only makes sense that Nintendo would make the handheld portion of NX an actual mobile device that does everything a regular mobile device does, but can also play NX games. Using cartridges would also make that a lot easier which feeds into that rumor which based off of the statements made by Macronix seems plausible.
See, it’s not hard to connect the dots and see what actually makes sense here. If you can sift through all the obvious click-bait BS in the mountain of NX rumors out there you can get a pretty definitive picture of what NX most likely will be.
That been said, Emily Rogers…..I can’t even. I just can’t. It’s shameful that people are this irresponsible and/or lazy. Now this whole dissertation is just the opinion of a gamer. That’s all I am. However, I do the best job that I can to back to my opinion with facts. I don’t think it is too much to ask someone who fancies herself to be an “insider” to do the same ALL the time instead of SOME of the time.